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Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 nov 2010, 15:25

Mijn 190E uit 1984 Heeft geen toerenteller, maar een grote klok.
Deze klok was al stuk, dus dacht breid het direct maar uit met een toerenteller.

Als je geen toerenteller hebt, liggen de kabels er niet voor.
Je hebt 2 extra draden nodig: het "TD" toerental signaal en een +12v stroom dit aangaat als de auto op contact komt.

Het TD signaal komt van de diagnose stekker af.
De 12 volt komt van een verdeelblok af bij je moterkap hendel.

Om te beginnen moet je speaker verwijderden in je dashboard.
Zit met 2 schroefjes vast.
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Volgens moet je het rooster verwijderen. Dit kan je met een tang en een doekje ertussen doen.
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De roosterplaat moet er nu uit. Die zit met 4 clipjes vast Hier moet aardig wat kracht en geduld op worden uitgeoefend.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 nov 2010, 15:30

Dan is dit het resultaat:
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Dan kan je de kachelbuis eruit trekken.

Het volgende moet je de plaat onder je stuur verwijderen (4 schroeven)
Hier onder kan je snelheidemeter kabel zien.
Is met gele moer.
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Deze moet je losdraaien, tegen de klok in.
Volgens kan je tellerunit deels uitwippen.
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Nu kan je de grote ronde stekker verwijderen, en daar achter zit ook nog een 4 polige stekker.
Ook zit aan deze kan een optische fiber kabel en een vacuum buis.
Mijn 190E heeft nog een mechanische oliedruk meter. Er loopt een leiding vanaf het oliefilterhuis naar de teller unit, deze moet je ook losmaken.

Waarschuwing, als je de olieleiding los hebt, START je auto NIET, de olie zal als een slagaarder alle kanten opspuiten.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 nov 2010, 15:36

Nu kan je aan de andere kant van de tellerunit de kabel verwijderen.
Er zit 1 op het klokje, en weer een optische fiber kabel.
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Dan kan je toerentellerunit eruit trekken, en schuif je het richting de middenconsole.
Dit is het resultaat:
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Nu kan je met je teller weer lekker naar binnen.
Om de klok te verwijderen moeten alle tellers eruit, dit is 1 geheel.
De volgende schroeven moeten er uit (rood omcirkeld)
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Dan kan je het geheel eruit trekken, wel met beleid doen, je kan de tellerplaten beschadigen.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 nov 2010, 15:45

Dan zit de Klok als los, en kan je er zo van afpakken.
Tip, kom niet met je vingers aan de zwarte tellerplaten, krijg je vingerafdrukken op.
De toerenteller en oude klok hebben de zelfde maat:
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Nu kan je als eerste de toerenteller weer plaatsen in de unit.
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Hier heb ik zelf een eigen stekker opgemaakt, omdat ik de originele niet heb.
De is een molex stekker van een oude computervoeding.
Je kan deze kabel origineel bestellen nr: A2015408109

Nu kan je de rest van de tellers weer terug monteren, en de schroeven weer in.
Tip: vervang je lampjes nu je er bij kan.

Nu moeten de 2 draden geplaatst worden.
We beginnen met de TD signaal. Deze komt vanaf de diagnose stekker, en moet door het schutbord heen.
Ik ben begonnen om eerst een draad door het schutbord heen te trekken.
Bij de zekeringkast zit een rubberen wartel waar al meerdere draden/vaccumbuizen doorheen gaan. Ik heb hier een extra gaat bij gemaakt en de kabel erin geduwd.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 nov 2010, 15:50

Nu moet je draad langs de zekeringkast leiden, en naast de bestaande draden leiden.
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Nu moet je bij je diagnosestekker uitkomen.
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Nu kan je een draadclipje knijpen op de draad, en onder de schroef plaatsen waar ook de andere groen/gele draden onder zit.

Nu is het werk onder de moterkap klaar.

De draad die door het schutbord is getrokken kom uit in de ruimte van de tellerunit.
Je zit het net achter die dikke zwarte kabel.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Wiersma » 09 nov 2010, 15:57

De volgende draad is de 12v draad.
Deze moet aangesloten worden op het verdeelblokje.
Dit verdeelblokje zit achter het stuk plastic waar ook je moterkaphendel opzit.
Eerst moet je maten eruithalen. Dan kan je moterkaphendel losmaken.
En zit een ronde drukclip als laatste vast.
Nu kan je het plastic verwijderen.
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Hier zie je het verdeelblokje, en de 12V kabel moet op 1 van de laatste 2 plekken.

Hier heb de de bruine kabel gemonteerd.
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Deze geleid je ook naar je tellerunit.
Hier heb ik ook weer een molex stekker opgezet, en alles weer teruggeplaatst.


Dan is dit het resultaat:
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 09 nov 2010, 18:03

wow, mooi man!

Soms is het wel moeilijk je het precieze plekje voor te stellen.

Trouwens goede keusom zo de tellerbak te verwijderen, beter als via de onderzijde!
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 30 jan 2011, 11:32

Onderdeel nodig om aan te sluiten.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Colja2002 » 06 feb 2011, 11:25

Ben vandaag ook begonnen om een toerenteller in mijn W201 1 te zetten

Nu vraag ik mij af wat de reden is geweest zoals de uitleg hieronder (toppie trouwens).

Om de speaker en het ventilatie rooster te verwijderen??

naar mijn mening is dit geheel niet nodig, als je de de onderplaat wegschroefd en vandaaruit de olie leiding en km tellerkabel loschroefd , dan kan je je unit naar voren trekken zodat je alle kabels los kan halen ...



Ik hoop hiermee een steentje bijgedragen te hebben

;)
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Brouwers » 08 feb 2011, 21:30

Ik vind het ook makkelijker via de onderplaat onder het stuur. Anderen blijkbaar niet, iedereen is anders.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Colja2002 » 08 feb 2011, 21:56

Ok das dan ieder voor zich natuurlijk ,..

nu nog een vraag over de toerenteller

als ik 110 op de snelweg rijd dan geeft de toerenteller 3000 toeren aan komt dit overeen met mijn Mercedes of moet ik deze nog afstellen?

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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Brouwers » 08 feb 2011, 22:29

Nee, er valt niks af te stellen. Bij iedere krukasomwenteling wordt er een puls gestuurd naar je ontsteking. Je toerenteller pakt deze pulsen van je ontsteking en laat dienovereenkomstig het wijzertje bewegen.

110 op de teller of op de gps?

Ik rijd bij 100 km/u (teller) al 3000 toeren. Een en ander is natuurlijk ook afhankelijk van je bandenmaat en diffoverbrenging.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor MercedesFTW » 09 feb 2011, 12:26

ikke willen ook dattes
Met vriendelijke groet,

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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 11 feb 2011, 17:46

ZIE: http://www.w201club.nl/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=2545

Nu nog even onderdeel A2015408109 of A2015406509 bestellen bij de dealer.

Wie kan het verschil uitleggen, behalve dan dat 6509 goedkoper is?



EPC zegt:
44 A 201 540 81 09 CABLE HARNESS
TACHOMETER 001 L
44 A 201 540 65 09 CABLE HARNESS
TACHOMETER 001 R
Met als enige verschil L en R.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Brouwers » 11 feb 2011, 18:06

Dennis, ik heb je het verschil toch uitgelegd? Dat de ene voor linksgestuurde en de andere voor rechtsgestuurde auto's is. Of vond je dat niet geloofwaardig? :unsure:
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 11 feb 2011, 18:08

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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Bassje » 11 feb 2011, 20:10

Dat lijkt mij ook het meest logische, aangezien er 'L' en 'R' achter de onderdeelnummers staat.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 13 feb 2011, 21:38

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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Bassje » 13 feb 2011, 22:36

Dat ligt er ook weer aan welk differentieel je er onder hebt hangen. Handbak of automaat zullen ook wel verschillen met zich mee brengen.
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Re: Toerenteller installeren 190E

Berichtdoor Denman1710 » 14 feb 2011, 08:50

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